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Old 20th May 2008, 15:22   #51
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Re: How much are your maintenance charges??

There are some very well respected commuals out there,that will honour their agreement to the owners on the complex and without the "behind your back attitude".But l always hear from many here in Akbuk and Altinkum,of the horrer stories the owners are experiecing,or have experienced, on the site,there property is on.
Paul.l do hope all will be well for you,and the complex your on has a code of honour towards the property owners,on the complex your on.l seen it before,when a new complex is built and the foriegners have bought enough on that complex,they start shooting the price up.And there are many reasons why they do this.And one of them is to take advantage of a situation,where it is not properly regulated at all.
l'm free from this worry,because of the house is private.l do think its best to be safe then sorry,go for a private property.Or do a very thorough search into the area,before you buy.
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Old 20th May 2008, 15:40   #52
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l'm free from this worry,because of the house is private. l do think its best to be safe then sorry,go for a private property.Or do a very thorough search into the area,before you buy.

As said before Bob, its easy to say that when you live in Turkey. The likelyhood is that if you buy a private property and only visit twice a year then far from being safe, you will be sorry.
Its just not practical.
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Old 20th May 2008, 16:09   #53
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As said before Bob, its easy to say that when you live in Turkey. The likelyhood is that if you buy a private property and only visit twice a year then far from being safe, you will be sorry.
Its just not practical.
l disagree with that Germaine.Many l have spoken to,are sorry for buying on a complex.Just because the facilities are there on the commual for managing the area of security,doesn't mean that the service is there.Your property is at much the same risk,by owning a private,as to the same to owning a property on a complex.Their is always someone around, that you can make arrangements with to take care of the property,while the owner is away
There has been many burglaries on the complexes,site,and commuals,only just this year,in Akbuk and Altinkum,where their supposebly is 24 hour security,and on some site,you never see the security at night,during the off peak.The gardens are not attended also,during the absence of the owners.l know,because l was dealing with a complex,attending to the owners garden,during his absence,and have noticed them asking me questions,when the owners are coming,l tell them,and then low and behold,just out of the blue,they start watering the garden,big time,clearing all the rubbish that was blown around during the winter.While they are working on things at the last minute,they lose all sense of reason,on how to water.They seem to have a hose equivalant to a pressure hose what the fire service use,and blasts the plants like darth vader is on a mission leaving, the poor plants are stripped of their foilage,and the soil several meters up the walls.
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Old 20th May 2008, 16:19   #54
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Also some of the security that people are paying for on some complexes are a joke.
We have seen a few with the gates; and hut for the guard, and some locals in the know avoid coming in this way by driving round the side of the complex and get in and back out this way!
Mel.

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Old 20th May 2008, 17:29   #55
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l disagree with that Germaine.Many l have spoken to,are sorry for buying on a complex.Just because the facilities are there on the commual for managing the area of security,doesn't mean that the service is there.Your property is at much the same risk,by owning a private,as to the same to owning a property on a complex.Their is always someone around, that you can make arrangements with to take care of the property,while the owner is away
There has been many burglaries on the complexes,site,and commuals,only just this year,in Akbuk and Altinkum,where their supposebly is 24 hour security,and on some site,you never see the security at night,during the off peak.The gardens are not attended also,during the absence of the owners.l know,because l was dealing with a complex,attending to the owners garden,during his absence,and have noticed them asking me questions,when the owners are coming,l tell them,and then low and behold,just out of the blue,they start watering the garden,big time,clearing all the rubbish that was blown around during the winter.While they are working on things at the last minute,they lose all sense of reason,on how to water.They seem to have a hose equivalant to a pressure hose what the fire service use,and blasts the plants like darth vader is on a mission leaving, the poor plants are stripped of their foilage,and the soil several meters up the walls.


That may be so Bob but cost aside, i cant see how a gated complex with neighbours keeping an eye and ear out with on site security and possibly CCTV could be deemed pointless compared to a private house with someone nipping round now and then. If a thief wants entry then he will gain entry but any thief with an ounce of common sense will go for the easy target. The private house, i believe is the easier target.
As far as gardening and maintenance is concerned (present company accepted as i know your keen in this department) This could be abused by the bloke i'm paying regardles of whether i live on a complex or not. At least on a complex the permanent residents will look out for those not around all the time.
As the heading of the thread suggests its about maintenance charges not the practice of buying on a complex. Surely its the bad companies we should be outing not the practise of buying on a complex.
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Old 20th May 2008, 18:01   #56
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I think, as a result of this thread and what some owners have found, we will be extremely apprehensive in 2 weeks when we go out to our place.
I agree with Germaine that on a complex you get to know close neighbours in the apartments above or beside you plus villas across the road so this must help the security when only visiting twice a year.
Surely a private property is left to its own devices as we see detached villas on our hill set apart and they are locked up but appear very vulnerable. If I was a burglar I would break into those in peace and quiet with plenty of time rather than being spotted by neighbours on a complex.
I think most of us UK owners who are absent need the lifeline of community spirit to keep checks and a private house on its own gives fewer options.
Living as a resident I would have Bob,s opinion but as a non resident I agree with Germaine and would be totally lost with a private villa on its own. Such a risk just leaving it there 46 weeks a year. I couldnt afford the charges on a private villa anyway but split between 40 or so,its more economical.
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Old 20th May 2008, 18:02   #57
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we pay £72 a month with free payment facilities from uk . 70 properties we have night security and gardens are lovely . we also have a massive pool. restaraunt . we are surrounded by some turkish complexes .i have looked at them and i dont know what they pay but compared to our site they look like a beirut war zone , so its the same old saying ,you get what you pay for .we also picked our management company . we are all brits and irish .
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Old 20th May 2008, 18:18   #58
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That may be so Bob but cost aside, i cant see how a gated complex with neighbours keeping an eye and ear out with on site security and possibly CCTV could be deemed pointless compared to a private house with someone nipping round now and then. If a thief wants entry then he will gain entry but any thief with an ounce of common sense will go for the easy target. The private house, i believe is the easier target.
As far as gardening and maintenance is concerned (present company accepted as i know your keen in this department) This could be abused by the bloke i'm paying regardles of whether i live on a complex or not. At least on a complex the permanent residents will look out for those not around all the time.
As the heading of the thread suggests its about maintenance charges not the practice of buying on a complex. Surely its the bad companies we should be outing not the practise of buying on a complex.

l know what your saying,but l did see this before.Say for instant there is an active security gaurd on the complex patrolling the area,with his trusty whistle blasting away,every few seconds."What good is that"all this security guy is doing,is letting the thief know l'm here.So the burglar just hides,and wait until the gaurd,walks past.lt doesn't make sense to me,the best method for the security guy is to walk,stealthfully,with pepper spray,and handcuffs.l emphisize the statement, if your lucky enough the complex your on, has an active security policy.Some just can't be bothered.As for a private house,yes ,you have a point their,with a person nipping around now again to check the property out,does sound more risky.But with many burglarys on these secured complexes[which has been paid for,by the owners for this service]tells me the service is not there.
You will always find,some[not all] with these security complexes that have cctv,with site security,have a tendency to be misused,sometimes there not switched on,or the security guy,is probably zonked out for the count.
l haven't seen your complex where your villa is being built Germaine.So l cannot comment on a perticular area l'm ignorant on.But what l do know, there is a policy of,"when the cats away,the rodents will play".
The gardening side is generally abused,whether its a complex or a private,it all depends on who you take on,"on the basis of trust"for private work".on a private.But many have asked me,that do have a property on complexes if you so kindly can take care of my property,and attend to the garden,all the usaul stuff one expects from property maintainance.The ones l attend to,l always report back to the owners with update info,to their property:examples,damage done,suspicious behaviour,many others.which l can retify,since l'm living here.
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Old 20th May 2008, 18:18   #59
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Thats great if you are happy forking out £864 a year for an apartment and perhaps you go there often enough to justify it but we dont and there are people on here paying far less who are quite happy with the standard.
We have quite a few Turkish owners on our complex and I am sure they would hold their heads at being charged 180 Ytl a month for maintenance and I would baulk at anything over £40-50 a month in all honesty.
Our complex of 36 apartments at £72 a month would be £31104 or 77760 Ytl per annum to a management company which seems extreme to me.
You have 70 so that £61 grand (152,500 Ytl) from one complex!!
Anyway as long as you are happy Biggles, thats fair enough and perhaps it is a quality thing .
No doubt in a year I will find out and then decide if its worth keeping it.

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Old 20th May 2008, 19:02   #60
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At the risk of repeating myself, I am paying the money and now expecting the service.
There are only 14 villas on our complex with two still for sale, but one of them has a permanent Brit resident, one a semi-permanent Turkish Cypriot resident and one is the bloke in charge of our maintainence and management.
At least if he fails to deliver the goods he will be getting it in the earhole everytime he passes and I will chuck all my rubbish in his garden !
But on a serious note, I will be monitoring how he is looked after on the maintenence side of things via my full time resident friend and I will not be expecting anything less.
As a full compliment of 13 at £1000 each when all up and running (the man in charge will be funded by us I am sure !), I do not consider that there will be a fortune creamed off it.
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